i would interpret as the president winking at me saying i m going to pardon you. lieu indough ski and hope hicks show iing up in the documents, they ve been interviewed. again as a guy who looked at investigatio investigations, they better be hoping there was nothing captured today that says something different. that means they re going to get reinterviewed. david, you want to make a point. no, i just want to agree with what phil just said. i think the pardon itself is suspect coming as when it did. but the pardon come wine bined with the call makes even more so. clearly, there could be a messaged with that. there s no one the president wants the talk least than michael cohen, who knows more than anyone else. let s not forget scooter libby was convicted of purgery and obstruction of justice.