[ everybody talking at once ] what you clearly see is these guys looking around going hey, let the good times roll. the swamp has not been drained, just restocked with a new group of lid arrestzard people. but it is remarkable that these folks who have been around so long and there is a narrative, it is the let them eat cake narrative which is particularly ironic for an administration that claims to be populist. and usually if you have covered local politics, you get this scandal in every city, but it s usually people who didn t have money who are suddenly wining and dining with lobbyists and this world of opportunity and privilege and they indulge. but trump hired other billionaires and millionaires. mnuchin wofrth $385 million. you go on and on. these are wealthy already. is it just because donald trump is living high on the hog why