hopeful for a summit? hope fful for a diplomatic outcome? you bet. there s still a chance of that. let s see what developing over the next couple of days. totally agreed, but the fallout may be this, sir, we have south korea s president moon talk about his meeting and here s what he said. that kim is worried about whether he can trust the u.s. to guarantee this stability of his regime after north korea carries out denuclearization. given the comments on the libya model. vice president pence s comments and president trump as well. are kim s concerns warranted or do you think the trump administration views north korea differently? i think kim s worries are warranteded. i ll agree that on the libyan model, that was f a big mistake to raise it, but the second one is the fact that we just pulleded ouflt iranian deal. so as kim looks at u.s. positioning here, he s got to
disguise because we were not ready, and because there s division within the administration. um-hum. i think the president has to get his national security adviser and the secretary of state on the same page, and that is that our objective is to try to find a solution on denuclearization, but stop talking about the libya model, which scared kim jong-un obviously, because gadhafi, after he gave his weapons up, ended up dead. that s what happened, right. so you can t really blame kim jong-un. i m not trying to make excuses for him. i think pompeo should take the lead. he s met kim jong-un twice. yes. he knows how he operates. you want him to go back. let the state department run this. you said before on this broadcast i want to make another trip there before that summit. he should, and he should go back. june 12th is too soon. okay. go back and get the parameters on denuclearization.
he was a made for tv businessman and billionaires who are good at real estate are not on tv doing reality tv shows. so setting that aside, i think that he what lindsey graham was saying has a little bit of a ring of the emperor has no clothes. it is not what is happening. i don t know why lindsey graham would say that. he is a smart person and knows a lot about foreign policy. it is like he s trying to i guess make lemonade from lemons and say this will work out eventually when, in fact, the fact that you had vice president pence and you had john bolton and invoking the libya the libya model. and so many experts have and that is the reason that north korea doesn t want give to give up weapons because they don t want to end up like qadhafi. that is not a good negotiating tactic. and they sent talking points to the surrogates, including the president has been clear he s prepared to walk away from this meeting and kept his word.
driving in the lane. driving on the road. he has veered from one extreme to the other. what he should do is strengthen our hand by having serious sanctions. i know wall street will object to that. and have reasonable bargaining objectives. when he comes to the melissa: what is a reasonable bargaining object i in your mind? that is objective in your mind? another criticism is he has to demand total denuclearization. at least this decade and in to next decade our objective should be freeze their program and monitor it. make sure they don t conduct the final tests they need to have an icbm to reach the u.s. mainland and make sure they don t have so many nuclear weapons they feel they have a surplus and might sell them to other even more dangerous forces. that should be our objective. but when we put forward the libya model, where gaddafi was killed by his people in the most brutal way you can
they think in their little own cocoon, and i don t know if the president s people have experience dealing with them. obviously i think there have been some mistakes because too many of the administration people are speaking with different voices. i think secretary pompeo, he s been there twice. he established an intelligence channel with the koreans. he should be speaking out. he should be the only one. but then you ve got the vice president. you ve got john bolton talking about the libya model where gadhafi ended up dead after they put his nuclear weapons out. i m sure kim jong-un got a little nervous about that. so this is a setback. this is not good. but the door is open.