free, right? we had to free our minds to get these concepts. but a lot of people think we re crazy. but on to tonight s topic, rome, is the united states abouf the fall as rome did? here is a depiction ofstat barbarians sacking the city. is this our future? first we hear from a o conservative,ur historian and a libertarian. the conservative, steve forbes of forbes media. you have some libertarian leanings, but conservative i would callll you. historian, carl richard is the next expert on rome. matt, you first. i think we are. i think the parallels are quite ominous. the debt, the expansion ofe foreign policy, the arrogance o executive power taking over ourl country. but i do think we have a chance