that. the democrats have to go community by community and media market by media market and telling the story and even more popular than what the spending is going to be used for is the tax changes and i think democrats can really lean into that and say every republican opposed raising taxes on the wealthy and capital gains. yeah. some in that manchin proposal as well as what is on the table in congress is basically restoring the tax rates that existed before the donald trump presidency cut them. as you say widespread support for those changes, which goes to how do you fund it. david stays with us as our kickoff expert. we want to bring on the ground libby caseer, our reporter tracking all of this. libby, is this washington as usual and you just throw out what the politicians say and that s why some tune it out completely? or does it matter joe manchin claimed to not have a number when he had one?