all he seemed to look at show business and hold it at arm s-length, like isn t this a little ridiculous? steve, there was always this this kind of apparent lack of polish with dave, but it seemed, at the same time, intentional. he wasn t trying to hide it. yes. a lack of polish to let the stage hands be seen, let the mistakes happen, let the prop fall apart. as and we also had not very high quality guests. in the first year or two, there would away lady with a dressed up parrot and so on. but as the time went by and we started booking people, i remember the dizzy night when cher first came on or when bob dillon or lib rochestery were on the show a few years in and you go, all right, things are changing now. dave used to joke, welcome to other extravaganza, but actually over the years it did become an extravaganza.