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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 01:35:00

completely shut down - altogether, and therefore l alternate messages are not getting through and as isabel was saying in terms - of the message he wants to put out there, perhaps there might| be a victory to celebrate, if the russian forces cani finally rout those final- holdout defenders in mariupol, but absent that, it has been almost a disaster for- russia in many ways, - but you are not going to see that, idon t think, l in any of the russian propaganda that gets put out. will there be an actual. escalation of hostilities? that, i think also is unclear, l i think putin, as unpredictable as he might be, also is not. completely mad, and knows that continued losses, - which will be harder and harder to hide, would be difficult to sustain and so i think. we will certainly see a lot . ofjingoism and nationalism on display and it is, - as you say, a central point of russian identity, in terms of overcoming nazism, but whether it really means we will be seeing a greaterl

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 10:33:00

alternate messages are not getting through and as isabel was saying in terms - of the message he wants to put out there, perhaps there might| be a victory to celebrate, if the russian forces cani finally route those final - holdout defenders in mariupol, but absent that, it has been almost a disaster for- russia in many ways, - but you are not going to see that, idon t think, l in any of the russian propaganda that gets put out. will there be an actual. escalation of hostilities? that, i think also is unclear, l i think putin, as unpredictable as he might be, also is not. completely mad, and knows that continued losses, - which will be harder and harder to hide, would be difficult to sustain and so i think. we will certainly see a lot . ofjingoism and nationalism on display and it is, - as you say, a central point of russian identity, in terms of overcoming nazism, but whether it really means we will be seeing a greaterl escalation of armed - hostilities, i m not sure. on that questi

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