but howard, go ahead though. explain. again, you ve been there. and you ve seen on a much different sort of platform and stage though people hungry for truth tellers who cut through. i m not comparing you to donald trump, blah, blah, blah. but you saw it also in august of 2003 people so disgusted with the political establishment. they wanted somebody then, you, that would cut through the crap. yeah. and the one similarity is that donald trump is running against his own party, as was i. because he feels like his party lost its way. and there are a fair number of people in the republican party this year as there were in the democratic party my year that believe that s true. that believe their party let them down, hasn t done what they promised they would do. with the exception of the jorge ramos thing, i have never seen
they work which is important because we have to cut the federal government bureaucracy finally down to size. not just talk about it, do it. i understand technology. and i do understand as well that leadership is about producing results, not giving a nice speech. you cannot lead unless you re prepared to challenge the status quo. i think i bring something very unique to the table. i think voters agree with me that the more they see, the more they like. carly fear ina, theve lly fi donald trump right now, 35% where you re in second place and 30%, up by 15 points in the state of south carolina. how do you account for his continued rise? you know, i think donald trump is perhaps as much as anything a big wakeup call to
you can t do. this you can t do that. i m sorry, i think he was a lot more patient than barack obama would have been if somebody lectured barack obama would not allow someone to stand up and lecture him that long. ask a question. i would hesitate to compare trump to the president of the united states yet. but remember that exchange with major garrett when he said asked something and perceived impolite and the media went crazy. so that s to your point. the backdrop is he s suing univision for $500 million. i don t like to see any journalist hauled out of a room like that physically, but there s a way press conferences work. and donald trump clearly would have called on jorge ramos. he called on him twice after the fact. and kacie hunt was in the room. she s in iowa. what was it like in the room? i think it was extraordinarily uncomfortable
kind of he clearly had a position that he was intent on pushing. and he wasn t thrown donald trump didn t say throw him out. his guy keith just kind of walked over-and-backed him out of the room. and trump brought him back in and answered three questions. so just for clarity, wasn t thrown out. and he did answer questions. i thought it was brilliantly played by trump. except for the fact they weren t questions. they were one lecture after another lecture and him lecturing donald trump on the constitution. i m sorry, i m going to say it. if i m a reporter in that room, i m going to say if you want to deliver a lecture, get a room and we ll go and we ll ask you questions. kacie is absolutely right. it had a to be i ve been in the rooms. it had to be uncomfortable for the rest of the media. you don t want to tell mr. ramos, hey, sit down. you asked your question. you don t want to do. that it is an uncomfortable
and under pressure. i think character will be revealed of all the candidates over time and under pressure. miss fiorina, it s mike barnicle. do you believe in birthright citizenship? i think it is in our constitution. i do not support amending the constitution. and frankly, in this regard, honestly, i think donald trump is acting a lot like the politician he explores. let s hold a bright sunny object and end birthright citizenship. it s not going to happen. whether people are for it or not, it s not going to happen. the reason i say as a distraction is because what i will do is expend all of my political capital and political energy on doing the one thing we haven t done for 25 years. let s secure the border. let s fix the legal immigration system which is such a huge part of the reason we have so many illegal immigrants. talk, talk, talk, talk, it s all anybody s been doing for 25