their facebook ad targeting very early and do things quote, unquote professionally and can have a candidate and a few of his surrogates like mr. giuliani who play a different way. ask ted cruz and hide cruz and rafael cruz and go back through the kennedy assassination lore. this is what the president likes to do when you get under his skin. the campaign has been very clear. they say they follow the lead of the president. they believe the president s political instincts are what helped him win in 2016 against all odds and even if theft best, you know, political analyst and the best people that can look at polling, they are going to follow the president no matter what he does, and if he decides, you know, to take on joe biden and call him nicknames and decides to tweet out, you know, weird videos about the speaker, they are going to follow. they are going to follow his messaging no matter what, and that s what we re seeing. normally we expect the president to sort of try to calm politi
accurate. that s what makes it accurate. let s take rudy giuliani at his word than he didn t know uncertain well-informed person. he has certainly has the ability to know whether this has been doctored or not, but if he didn t, what does that say for the rest of america who is not paying as close attention to this back and forth of someone like rude rurksd and, you know, and as we see more of these types of things happening in the next, you know, next 18 months during the presidential election, there is going to be you talked about his responsibility to know. there s going to be questions to the trump campaign. all signs are that the trump re-election campaign is doing everything that they can to be this professional, traditional operation that they were not in 2016. they can do that by by flagging these sorts of things and making and, you know, and coming out but they can also do both. they can do both. they can have a more professional operation and do as they are now.
warren. michael, i want to start with you because you just had a conversation with the president s lawyer rudy giuliani who tweeted one version of the doctored pelosi video and the president re-tweeted a different one. rudy giuliani took his down, but he s not really saying sorry, right? yeah, that s right. giuliani tweeted this video last night and then says, he told cnn that he got a text from a friend who said it may not be a legitimate video. he took it down because he says that he didn t want any of the any of the drama, but, of course, he then proceeded to engage in questioning whether or not speaker pelosi is speaking properly. he told cnn i have no way to know if it s doctored, this video, if it s doctored or not. the president and i don t like to be hit in the head without hitting back. she s the speaker of the house. he says to her grow up, stop it. you re too old for that, and then he defended his client, the president, saying he s plenty emotionally or mentally capable,
without doing that. yeah. i mean, look, there are always going to be people who find that fin, and if you are a woman who is going to work in politics or anywhere near politics you have to get over that certain subset because those people are never going to change. the bigger concern that lisa and michael are talking about is people who don t know that it s not real and believe that it s accurate depictions of politicians and people running for president and that s the bigger concern. when you put something up that s clearly fake and you don t label it as such and people start to believe that that s the truth. these are the misinformation campaigns that we saw were wreaking havoc on 2016. you know, they are going to come back in full force in 2020. it s one thing for a foreign government to be, you know, injecting themselves in our election, that s certainly going to happen this time, but it s another thing to see it espoused by the president and by rudy giuliani. and i want to mak
as much or more than her, so not wanting to get into ative about the particulars of a video by clearly rudy giuliani doing the president s byrding here and stirring up and continuing thistive between t this tiff the president and speaker of the house. i don t have the words for this. i ve been here for 30 years. i used to joke that washington is like the fifth grade. it s not a joke. it s not a joke. from the president s perspective, they say, well, what about what the speaker said and they are right. she questioned his mental health and his stability saying he needs an intervention. he comes back with his it s not only with a stable genius line and goes after her and then, i m sorry there, should be a line somewhere. she s the highest ranking woman in american politics and third in line of the president as speaker of the house. you have to have a responsibility if you re going to re-tweet something to make sure whether or not it s