obamacare has failed and county after county, they are left with no choices, rising premiums and skyrocketing deductibles. obamacare is dead. martha: joining me now karl rove, fox news political contributor, he served as a senior advisor to president george w. bush. and matt bennett, could have both of the herd here today. i want to put up a picture of senator schumer on he wrote on the end of the word mean, i don t know if we have it to point out that it s even meaner than the first round that happened in the house. what you think about all this? i thought it was unusual for president obama to speak out in this way. is it mean to tell people you can keep your plan if you like your plan, and 14 million people lose their plan? is it mean to say you could keep your doctor and millions of americans lost their doctor? is it me to say your premiums are going to go down $2500 and it said the premiums have been under obamacare rising in double-digit rates in most places?
is it fair or mean to say were going to cover everybody in america and have all of these people who are not covered today? on and on and on, the affordable care act was built on a tissue of lies and many of them were hurtful. this bill is funded by taxes on people who need medical devices, people who need drugs, people who go to hospitals, and and a fundamentally charge us younger people for their insurance in order to subsidize wealthier americans who have higher incomes. if there s meanness as a standard of how we should judge this law of republicans are proposing we also want to use that same standard for the affordable care act, which was pretty darn mean. martha: let s let matt bennett responded that, what do you think? this bill, it s president trump who called the house bill who mean and he wast
there s a lot of new questions are. as you dig in deeper. good to see you both. coming up next, president obama calls a new g.o.p. health care man but has little sympathy for the millions of americans facing very high premiums some say because of the law that he put in place. karl rove and matt bennett here to debate that s coming up in a moment. take a look at this tweet. g.o.p. congress may never again get a chance to kill so many people. could rival the iraq war and its total. that s from a harvard economics professor. just one week after the attack on republican baseball practice, are our politics back to business as usual? when we come back.