actual numbers will fluctuate, given circumstances on the ground. now, whether the actual number is 4100 or 4500, that still need to be evacuated, it still means, shannon, if you do simple math, based on what psaki said or the white house was claiming come around 11,000, there could still be around 7,000 americans on the ground looking for safe passage home. and if not that many, how did we come up with that original 11,000 number? were they lying, did they not know? there are a number of questions here tonight about exactly how many americans remain in this incredibly dangerous and precarious circumstance on the ground feared shannon: let s hope that pledge to not leave a single one behind is held to. kevin, we will see you in just a few. the recent freelance trip to afghanistan by two members of congress shining a spotlight on how congressional offices are being flooded with requests for lawmakers to find out what is really happening and to help get americans and our in country
healthier, happier, morning meaningful. that person can have all kinds of different views, but if he did that, he d be the greatest president in american history. maybe we will get one someday appear let s hope. so back to afghanistan. unlike a lot of experts you see on tv, laura logan has meant an awful lot of time in afghanistan, lived there during her 20 years of work. she joins us for an entire hour on fox nation to explain what s been happening. she said it s actually not as complicated as we think it may be, may be more simple than anybody wants us to know. what they want you to believe is that afghanistan is complicated, because if you complicated it s a tactical information warfare called ambiguity increasing. so we are all talking about the corruption come of this, that, all of these conflicts. but at its heart, every single thing in the world, at its heart, it s very simple.
more reasonable and with that heavy footprint that barbara referred to at the airport, if they can get this going and get a steady stream of people out and that is successful, it is impossible to imagine them cutting that off when that is going to in essence be the legacy of this withdrawal. how effectively and safely did the united states get out people who were either american citizens or people who helped the united states for 20 years? let s hope. let s hope there is not an end date on august 31st if they are not all out. that s still an open question but i hear you that sounds like their goal at the moment. general, about going forward, moving forward in afghanistan. there seems to be a conventional wisdom without the u.s. presence that afghanistan will once again become a terrorist safe haven. is that a forgone conclusion and why is it in the taliban s
women, the list goes on. so, there is, of course, a very real fear that things will revert to what they looked like in the late 90s and early 2000s when women were shuddered at home and girls schools were closed and people lived in fear of the taliban and you had a mass exodus of of refugees pouring into neighboring countries, like pakistan. it s not clear, at all, that the taliban will be able to effectively govern. but the primary concern, right now, i would just say, is aversion of bloodshed. trying to stop carnage, trying to stop street-to-street battles. and most importantly, for the americans, trying to stop some kind of a direct conflict between u.s. forces and those personnel they are trying to evacuate, right now, and taliban fighters. yeah, absolutely. let s let s hope. we ll leave it there, for now. clarissa ward in kabul, afghanistan. really great to get your reporting there, on the scene, as this breaking story develops. thank you so much. and we have more on our