they are 7% in the polls. this is for titilation. you can do it, but i will not do it. i was an intern and i said i understand you can fire me for insubordination. but i will not do it. did they fire you? no, they didn t because the stakes were so low for everybody. i was an intern. i could get an internship somewhere else. they were barely paying me. you know. but my view was, my view would be now, it would be very difficult argument to say you should not interview marine le pen now, when she is second, quite often, in the polls, that the politics has broken down and you have to engage with it. you re not saying interviewing someone doesn t give them a platform. what you are saying is they already had a platform? when they have a platform. then it is justified. well, otherwise, what will you do? never speak to them? let s take donald trump. should journalists
and, you know, the civil rights era was a long time ago, even though it wasn t, and we have equality now and so on. obama was known by this stage, but there was no sense that he would ever be president, it would be a really weird idea then. and so to see who could escape and who couldn t escape and why they couldn t escape, it s a public disaster so you have a public response, but this was a private response a privatised response. so if you didn t have a car, if you didn t have the money for a motel, and it came at the end of the month, if you hadn t been paid, you couldn t go. and so to see that all wash up and then to see the response. there s a moment where michael brown, the head of the federal emergency management says, we re seeing people that we didn t know existed. and i thought never a truer word has been said. it was hard with the book, because it s an anthology, you have to kind of pick
but my view would be now, it would be very difficult argument to say you should not interview marine le pen now, when she is second, quite often, in the polls, that the politics has broken down and you have to engage with it. you re not saying interviewing someone doesn t give them a platform. what you are saying is they already had a platform? when they have a platform. then it is justified. well, otherwise, what will you do? never speak to them? let s take donald trump. should journalists never interview him ? he s the president. should you never interview him or should you be trying to hold him to account, so in a moment where people have power, you have to hold them to account and myjudgement was that richard spencer, in this case, was moving into the realms of power. now, it is a judgement, so i think it is a very legitimate question of should you or should you not, but it was my call. in that case, it made sense.
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