me. but my view was, my view would be now, it would be very difficult argument to say you should not interview marine le pen now when she is second, quite often, in the polls and the politics has broken down and you have to engage with it. you re not saying interviewing someone give them a platform you are saying they already had a platform? a platform? when they have a platform- a platform? when they have a platform. then a platform? when they have a platform. then it a platform? when they have a platform. then it is - platform. then it is justified. platform. then it is justified. otherwise i platform. then it is i justified. otherwise what platform. then it is - justified. otherwise what will ou do? justified. otherwise what will you do? never justified. otherwise what will you do? never speak - justified. otherwise what will you do? never speak to i justified. otherwise what will. you do? never speak to them. let s take donald trump. should journalists never interview h
this is titilation. you can do it. i will not do it. i was an intern and i said i understand you can fire me for insubordination. but i will not do it. did they fire you? no, they didn t because the stakes are so low for everybody. i was an intern. i could get an internship somewhere else. they were barely paying me. but my view was, my view would be now, it would be very difficult argument to say you should not interview marine le pen now when she is second, quite often, in the polls that the politics has broken down and you have to engage with it. you re not saying interviewing someone doesn t give them a platform you are saying they already had a platform? when they have a platform. then it is justified. well, otherwise, what will you do? never speak to them? let s take donald trump. should journalists never interview him ?
writing was actually not something that occurred to me until very late. until very late. let s fast forward until very late. let s fast forward a until very late. let s fast forward a bit until very late. let s fast forward a bit from - until very late. let s fast forward a bit from then, | until very late. let s fast . forward a bit from then, but presumably is still not making much money writing, 1994, you are sent by the guardian to south africa to govern the country s first democratic elections. why did they choose you and what was it like to be a witness to such historic change? a witness to such historic chance? , . change? well, they chose me because they change? well, they chose me because they were, change? well, they chose me because they were, first - change? well, they chose me because they were, first of i because they were, first of all, i had got a bursary from the guardian so i was known. and i was when i. when i interviewed for the bursary are talked abou
now, it would be very difficult argument to say you should not interview marine le pen now when she is second, quite often, in the polls that the politics has broken down and you have to engage with it. you re not saying interviewing someone doesn t give them a platform you are saying they already had a platform? when they have a platform. then it is justified. well, otherwise, what will you do? never speak to them? let s take donald trump. should journalists never interview him ? he s the president. should you never interview him or should you be trying to hold him to account so in a moment where people have power, you to hold them to account and myjudgement was that, richard spencer in this case, was moving into the realms of power. now, it is a judgement, so i think it is a very legitimate question of should you or should you not, but it was my call.
of president obama, occupy wall street, the tea party. but i think reporting on hurricane katrina over the course of the years stands out, why is that? i felt that in that moment the contradictions of america s kind of race and class were laid bare. that there were all sorts of ways in which they could be finessed, anybody who tries hard enough can do this or that and, you know, the civil rights era was a long time ago, even though it wasn t, and we have equality now and so on. obama was known by this stage, but there was no sense that he would ever be president, it would be a really weird idea then. and so to see who could escape and who couldn t escape and why they couldn t escape, is a public disaster so you have a public response, but this was a private response a privatised response.