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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:11:00

of our democracy democratic republic. that is who mike lee is, he tried to find a weakness in our constitutional system to destroy american democracy and for him to go on television and claim that i don t have the interests of the country or the constitution at heart, is laughable. which i think he s betrayed his oath, but not only betrayed is out he s betrayed the american identity. and utah deserves better, the country deserves better and i think that s why most utah onions want to replace. i m your former party as i often say is obsessed with projection. it s always projection, and as for you not having seen that clip will watch fox so you don t have to. these are midterms that could be defined by roe v. wade, a woman s right to choose, you called yourself a pro lifer but also put out a statement in response to the samuel eco draft opinion in which he said quote, if roe v. wade is overturned, some states will immediately enact extreme law

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:08:00

majority that already wants to replace him, so that we can do that and the process was the following both for the united utah party and for the democratic party at utah, they had their conventions on their delegates cast a vote in order to join our coalition, to support my candidacy rather than nominating other candidates into the general election. so, for the last several months we ve been working very hard, engaging with delegates in both of those parties, meeting with them all over the state and all our 29 counties, meeting with them remotely, messaging to them, listening to them and doing the heavy lifting, building this cross partisan coalition to defeat mike lee and protect our democracy. so, you re building this coalition, if its coalition gets you into office, as you pull off this unlikely victory let s say in november, with the support of local democrats, would you caucus with the democrats in the senate if elected as independents bernie

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:07:00

talk democrats have adopted be replicated and other close red state riches. who better to ask than evan mcmullin himself, he joins us now. thank you for coming on the show this evening, you are a lifelong conservative, you know have the support of your states democratic party in your independent bed to try and unseat senator mike lee in november. how exactly do that democratic party decision come about, did you lobby them to stand down? well, start off to say, a majority of one replace mike lee. the challenge of that majority is divided between democrats of course, independents, disaffected republicans or pro democracy republicans, whatever you d like to label them. and then members of third parties and so i went to unite a utah party, democratic party and asked them to join my coalition to defeat mike lee, i asked them to help me form this

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:10:00

third parties, i ve got to maintain my independence and that s what i m committed to doing. i want to play from senator lee had to say to fox as laura ingraham earlier this week, i want your reaction on the other side. have a listen. this is not similar, who has an interest of the american constitution senator elise china frame you as a shifty opportunities who basically hates america and the constitution, how do you respond? well, i should respond to that. this is coming from a self-described constitutional conservative who played an integral role in trying to topple american democracy. so, i have to say that s the first time i m seeing that clip, i should respond to it more fully but i will say that that is an utter joke. this is somebody who tried to use his knowledge of the constitution, which i believe is great, to try and find a legal fig leaf in order to carry out a toppling as i said

Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:09:00

sanders and angus have already done? i ll say, the fact that democrats in the utah party voted to join our coalition, now makes our opportunity to replace lee i d say much much better than on mike lee, of course i m the candidate i might say that but i m not one that oversells electoral opportunities. but again, a majority of utah want to replace them but, would you caucus with ? . absolutely, i ll answer your question i m going to maintain my independence and the reason for that is that i got to represent this coalition in order to better represent utah, to provide the kind of leadership that utah mcentee needs, but also if this coalition divides itself and we are divided, because i join one party or another, then likely is gonna be reelected and will have failed in our mission. so, in order to represent the pro democracy republican against

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