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Experienced National Security staff. I think the people on this panel are aware of that. They have a lot of interaction with the people on our staff. We do rely on their expertise and their history of navigating the most sensitive subjects imaginable. We recognize that there is tension between national between selfgovernance in this country and national selfpreservation and selfprotection. Theres no question about that. And we are not dismissive of National Security concerns. We do take them very seriously. We recognize that its a dangerous world. As weve heard already. We certainly know that. Nor do we doubt that the government needs to engage in surveillance activities. Its not a question whether she should have intelligent activities or no intelligence activities or no surveillance whatsoever. So as a result of that our reporters communicate quite regularly with the pentagon, the white house, the intelligence agencies, you know, on the nsa documents that are at issue here. We spent

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