working the numbers. the chinese sighting gives us a little bit of hope. just a little bit of hope that maybe we ve stumbled on to it. but aside from that, there is still a growing momentum that we are on to it. and i do really believe that we will find it. it just may take a long time. les obben is an airline, airplane aficionado. this has to be mind-boggling even for you. you ve been flying for decades now, right? almost 30 years. right. it s totally amazing. what s amazing to me, it s almost been 24 hours since we got this information about this ping that was supposedly found by this chinese ship. i mean, in this day and age of communication, i realize there s time, and diplomacy involved. why don t we have some form of communication on exactly precisely what they found? absolutely. all right. standby, everyone. we re going to talk to our panel
mikey and les obben. mary, that s what you said to me 30, 45 minutes ago, behind closed doors you d take someone to the woodshed but come out front and say exactly what the prime minister just said. hey. i got a line to the prime min ? minister. no. i was in government for a very, very long time. you re very competitive in investigations. we do this all the time. if they tell you to go look here, in your spare time, you go look there. that s what an investigator does because he s curious. publicly, you all have to be on the same page. clearly, though, he s urging caution, nick gillespie, but he s taking this seriously though it s not confirmed or corroborated. sure. he s not going to get out in front of this thing. there s so little information available about these pings now. and are they legitimate? he s protecting himself as much
carried out these measurements, that heard these pings. but so far, it s been unsuccessful in reaching that vessel. it s reached out to the authorities, the relevant authorities in beijing. it still hasn t got enough information to find out what kind of pings these were. to find out exactly what depth they were at, what equipment was used, things like that. until they get that information, they say, they re not prepared to commit actual resources in terms of aircraft and ships to that location. we ll see what the coming hours bring. don? matthew chance in perth. thank you very much. let s discuss now, michael, aviation analyst, retired royal air force pilot. les obben, 77 pilot. rick gillespie, international group of historic aircraft recovery. mary schiavo, former transportation department inspector general. also joining us in a little bit will be jeffrey thomas, ceo of airlinesratings.com. a statement a short time ago saying chinese reports can no be
practicing. does that make a difference to you, les? it s a good point. but even if he was doing that he might be doing it just for fun. and depending on where it was. i m not sure i could draw any conclusions from the that. a lot of people have been looking at the pilot and co-pilot with a certain sense of concern that maybe they have something to do with it. but there is no proof or evidence right now that either of the men had anything nefarious to do with this airplane. it hasn t been made public at this point in time if there is. does this change the information on the pinger supposedly found, the sound, the frequency and also what the prime minister said, anything do you think this changes anything? what it does is it causes the air chief marshal houston to be reprioritize his assets. but in doing that, the
congratulations. thanks. yeah, very nice. i was asking les obben, a 77 pil 7, have you ever had an engine failure at takeoff? i ve had to abort a takeoff at 90 knots. it was a procedure that was familiar to us. are you happy you have enough runway in front of you that you don t have to go airborne? if i had to continue, it wouldn t have been a problem either. it s part of the recurrent training process. what they just went through was a very similar thing that we practice all the time, and for me, as i had this contention early on when we discovered this simulator, or the simulator with the captain, that he was doing this just to practice his own recurrent training procedures. i would imagine, too, as you said, entertainment, too. if you have a simulator in your home, love flying, you re going to try to do daring and fun things i would imagine. am i