on television as theater is the wrong forum to assess who he is. i think it is, bob. i think it is. i think there are a lot of questions that need to be raised about chuck hagel, his preparedness. we re just saying the hearing wasn t handled well. there are a lot of people and bob, i know that you ll remember this name very well. who have come up to me quietly who support chuck hagel and have said, is this going to be our century s version of les aspen? that s the recollection i had. les aspen, the pinnacle of defense intellectuals and just deny work out in the pentagon and was very hesitant to make decisions. in the pentagon, secretary of
wisconsin. we should point out president obama won paul ryan s district last time around. look, he represents, and that s something that s something we should point out about paul ryan. he s not he does not represent a, quote, safe republican district. he has made it safe. he has always been popular in his district even if his ideology may be less popular than he personally. so it may give us a sign about something, he must have some political skill, some hand-to-hand political campaign skill to hold a seat that on paper, yes, you can say slightly leans republican, but it was never a slam dunk for him. and certainly not the first time. this was les aspen s old seat. wisconsin has been right in the middle of all of the budget wars and the wars over public employees and what governor scott walker has done. so wisconsin is a very hot state indeed. and paul ryan can try to help
going to win this race. but they are winning with men. wisconsin, they re behind in wisconsin. this will help them in wisconsin. should point out that president obama won paul ryan s district last time around. that s right. and it s something we should point out about paul ryan, he s not he does not represent a, quote, safe republican district. he s made it safe. he s always been popular in his district even if his ideology was less popular. so he may show you something or give us a sign about his political, campaign skill, to hold a seat, that on paper, you could say it slightly leans republican, but it was never a slam dunk for him and certainly not the first time. this was les aspen s old seat. and wisconsin has been right in the middle of all the budget
going to win this race. but they are winning with men. wisconsin, they re behind in wisconsin. this will help them in wisconsin. should point out that president obama won paul ryan s district last time around. that s right. and it s something we should point out about paul ryan, he s not he does not represent a, quote, safe republican district. he s made it safe. he s always been popular in his district even if his ideology was less popular. so it may show you something, give us a sign that he must have some political skill, some hand-to-hand splil campaign skill to hold a seat that, yes, on paper, you could say it slightly leans republican, but it was never a slam dunk for him and certainly not the first time. this was les aspen s old seat. and wisconsin has been right in the middle of all the budget wars and the wars over public
that was, of course, mitt romney when he announced paul ryan as his running mate. he made the mistake saying he s the next president. the democrats have to figure out their plan of attack because of the fact he s on the ticket. joining me is governor jim doyle and melissa harris perry, host of her show on msnbc. governor doyle, thanks for joining us. you re the hometown democrat here on this program tonight. you know this guy. how was he able to win in russ feingold s district for all those years? well that district s been changed around quite a bit. it was once les aspen s district, a great congressman from wisconsin. but it got moved around over the years to become more and more of a republican district and a few years ago has made, you know, they call it a swing district but it s been a relatively safe incumbent protection republican seat. so, it isn t like he s been winning in a heavily democratic area. he s been winning in a district that s gotten changed and to become much more