no, no, no. there s still collective bargaining. what this does is bring reform. we need to have the reforms inside our state. i disagree with you, mike bell, i appreciate you coming on the program. you re a stand-up guy for holding up your position. i think you should change your position. get with the people! coming up, clean energy will put this country back to work. how america can take the lead instead of taking the back seat. leo gerard weighs in along with the folks here in toledo. we ll be right back. merica, merica, there s a doctor who can peer into the future. there s a nurse who can access in an instant every patient s past. and because the whole hospital s working together, there s a family who can breathe easy, right now. somewhere in america, we ve already answered some of the nation s toughest healthcare questions. and the over 60,000 people of siemens are ready to do it again. siemens. answers.
the fact of the matter is, you ve got chinese companies that want to invest here, they want to invest hang on a minute. they want to invest in the solar industry here, but they re destroying the solar ar indusea that was already here. we want to make sure we re talking about government, we re talking about president obama s jobs bill. if we can get republicans to pass the president s jobs bill, we can create american jobs for american workers using american taxpayer dollars. we don t need to rely on the chinese if we could get the republicans to do their job. joining us later in the program talking more about manufacturing jobs, we ll visit with the folks here in ohio, and there s just so many facettes of creating jobs. it s about risk takers, about believing in american workers. leo gerard, it thank you for joining us ton ining us tonight. remember to answer tonight s question there at the bottom of the screen. i want to know what you think. manufacturing jobs ohio have
well, hell, all the workers are gone! how can you have a tax base if you don t have anybody working and paying it? now, what i just said, if you had watched the republican debate the other night, what i just said is pretty much brain surgery, isn t it? get your we re going to hear from these great folks here in the program tonight. get your cell are phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight s question will the american jobs act help towns like toledo get back off their feet? text a for yes, b for no to 622639. or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com for a comment. we ll bring you results later on in the show. tonight, joining me is a brother in the fight, leo girard, the president of the united ste ed steelworkers unio on the ed show.
scot-free. once again, i didn t say i m against collective bargaining. i m pro reform, but i m not against collective bargaining. you need to switch your position on the issue. no, no, no. there s still collective bargaining. what this does is bring reform. we need to have the reforms instied our state. i disagree with you, mike bell, i appreciate you coming on the program. you re a stand-up guy for holding up your position. i think you should change your position. get with the people! coming up, clean energy will put this country back to work. how america can take the lead instead of take being the back seat. leo gerard weighs in along with the folks here he in toledo. we ll be right back.
joining me is leo gerard, president of the steelworkers union. we re talking about renewable energy, the energy sector. there s such a broad opportunity here for renewable energy but here again the chinese are sticking it to us. they re ahead of us. where are we deficient? we need an energy program, a program that says first and foremost we re going to rebuild our industrial base. part of the reason the mayor has a problem is the workers are laid off, the tax payers are gone. the standard of living has fallen. we need to rebuild the manufacturing base, we can do that with solar, wind, we need to fix the mass transit system, our schools. 60% of the schools in america are more than 50 years old. i want my kids in a good school with good teachers. leo, isn t it true that china is investing far more in renewable energy than we are? their infrastructure dollars far outweigh what we re doing as a country? china is investing much more