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Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:24:00

registration, all sorts of things to make it harder to vote. they tried to strip you because you as a democrat were elected governor of your actual powers and to neuter the office of governor simply because it was held by a democrat. that s who they are. are you concerned that the supreme court how worried are you that the supreme court is about to give that legislature total power over choosing the presidential slates or choosing the electoral slates in 2024? they want to manipulate the voting laws for partisan gain. this independent legislature theory uses the donald trump formula. if you don t like the result, just rip off the piece of the constitution that you don t like. they engaged in extreme partisan gerrymandering. the state supreme court said it was outside the bounds of the state constitution. this case says, we re going to rip off the part of the state constitution that has to do with checks and balances.

Transcripts for MSNBC The ReidOut 20240604 00:21:00

seemed sympathetic to offender more than 230 years of precedent. the case before them was moore v. harper which hinges on an entirely made up doctrine, thank you chief justice rehnquist, called the independent legislature theory. a once fringe but not popular theory argues that the federal constitution gives state legislature total and unchecked authority over federal elections in their state. former judge michael whiting, the guy that had to tell mike pence he could not steal an election for trump, is co-counsel who argued against the theory before the indicate. he called it the most significant case in the history of our nation and here is why. it would in theory allow the state legislatures to appoint electoral slates, who would vote for a presidential candidate who did not win the popular vote in

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:27:00

legislatures are doing something that would violate the state constitution. as confusing as this was to listen to, to learn about today, what was so concerning was that donald trump, who is not one for legal jargon, posted on his social media site that this case was, quote, so important. why is donald trump so in favor this thing? what is in it for him? again, if you look back at the 2020 election, the trump folks tried to use a version of this theory to get state legislatures to do their bidding, to send slates of electors to congress declaring that he won. in states in which he did in fact lose. but here s the mystery of, stephanie, that we all ought to be concerned about, regardless of our politics. this theory, the independent legislature theory does not just help republicans, it can

Holder rips legal scheme to hijack elections as SCOTUS considers

Eric Holder, former attorney general and chair of the Democratic Redistricting Committee, talks with Alex Wagner about Independent Legislature Theory and how it would be used to hijack elections if the Supreme Court doesn't rule against it. 

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 07:27:00

social media site that this case was, quote, so important. why is donald trump so in favor this thing? what is in it for him? again, if you look back at the 2020 election, the trump folks tried to use a version of this theory to get state legislatures to do their bidding, to send slates of electors to congress declaring that he won. in states in which he did in fact lose. but here s the mischief, stephanie, that we all ought to be concerned about, regardless of our politics. this theory, the independent legislature theory does not just help republicans, it can also help democrats. it depends on who runs the state legislature, who the governor might be. and so, you know, we should always want courts as a check and balance on the conduct of state officials, whether the executive branch officials or legislative officials, there should be a role for the courts. so, when you ask about a middle

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