is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more tha we have. fellas, i need 11,000 votes. give me a break. then president trump georgia secretary of state - in order to overturn the election result in that state. the phone call remains shocking, no matter how many times you hear it. but the call was over an hour-long. and there are other parts of that call that prosecutors may now be taking a closer look at for instance, there is thi part so, it did people voted and i think the number is clos to 5000 people and they went to obituaries. they went to all sorts o methods to come up with an accurate number. and a minimum is close to abou 5000 voters. that was president trum insisting, again, to the georgia secretary of state that thousands of dead peopl voted in georgia during th 2020 election. today, the washington post reports that one day befor that infamous phone call, report commissioned by donal trump s own campaign had found that nowhere near 5000 dea
collapse under the weight of this joining us now is tall forhadian weinstein and paul butler, professor at universit school of law and tally, i will start with you in terms of joe there so many different layers to all these different legal saugus let s start with the one tha seems most pressing joe tacopina is president trump s counsel in this case. and it sort of seems like he may have a conflict of interest here for people who are no lawyers, can you explain how and why that might be the case yes, so, alex, i don actually see how he ca continue to represent trump in this case. because he has two sets of obligations that the right issue. one is that you have talke about in terms of hi obligations to stormy daniels, because there was a time whe he represented her and so that generates conflict of interest because, under the ethical rules, he cannot represent
someone whose interests ar adverse to her, which, clearly this is. diametrically opposed right and he can t use anything that she told him in confidence i that next representation now, she can weigh those conflicts. maybe there was some discussio of that when she met with th manhattan da s office and mayb she thought, okay, i auditione him, trump can have him. but that s not the end of it because there is the second se of obligations he has, just as an officer of the court. he has a duty of candor. so, he can t say something i court that he knows is false he can t illicit testimony tha he knows is false. so, he s kind of at disadvantage compared to a lawyer who comes in fresh an it does not know what she migh have told him. so, let s say, for example, sh showed him proof of th relationship - - and he can t argue in court to the contrary he can t say, no, the