so why should anyone think he s telling the truth now? well, they shouldn t. to your point, he s the lead conspirator on the big lie and was cleared that he did everything in his power, simply, to just throw anything against the wall that they hoped would stick. and what s remarkable is how much they threw against the wall and how little stuck, literally nothing stuck after countless court cases, countless audits, we now know after two years, there is zero evidence supporting the notion there was any wide spread votertrarycontr more votes for joe biden. to your point, this is a guy who is in the middle, the tip of the spear, leading the charge on the january 6th. it s a very important development and i m glad you have ellie on to parse the legal implications for it because he is the guy with the real legal crystal ball. yeah, you said not much stock. the only place that it did stick was in the court of maga conspiracy or court of maga delusion. very effectively, actuall
implications for it because he is the guy with the real legal crystal ball. yeah, you said not much stock. the only place that it did stick was in the court of maga conspiracy or court of maga delusion. very effectively, actually, yeah. right. ron, the subpoena says giuliani was in contact with trump and members of congress about strategies to delay the overturn of the 2020 election. what do you think? is he naming names here? well, i don t know. i don t think we know what he s doing but i think the big revelation that so far in the overall ark of the january 6th committee is that we re learning it wasn t just throwing stuff against the wall and hair die dripping down your face and a show. that there was a serious coordinated effort with the vision of how to overturn this election by encouraging state legislatures to intervene and local officials to intervene in a way that would allow
direction. sandra: fox news is learning some of the details that would be involved in actually making this happen. that it would take two months for the national guard to arrive at the southern border. talking about this being an immediate action is sort of being ruled out all this takes time, a work in progress. you need the permission of the governors. this would involve a huge effort. what is the likelihood that this is going to happen? it is a huge effort and it will take time but at the end of the day the biggest this is where donald trump has been right all along about this. the biggest and most important aspect of all of this is getting mexico to participate to be a partner of ours in preventing people from south america from coming through mexico to either to come to here or also to work along the border to eradicate the
california says he is giving the plan some thought. to william la jeunesse live in los angeles. william, the very beginning of this plan. do we know what a deployment of national guard troops would look like? what i m told, leland, you won t see the national guard soldiers on the border with m-16s arresting illegal immigrants. you could see the air national guard. an agent in the field in a chase and needs border patrol air support and miles away no one to check it out. the national guard can do that. you ll see the guard in the motor pool repairing vehicles, monitoring and maintaining video surveillance. giving better realtime intel and awareness. improving roads and repairing the fence. that was a big help in 2006. the urgency cannot be underscored. we ll do it today under the president s direction and continue my conversation with all four border governors and we hope to have the path
that the federal government will provide that help. it frees up the border patrol to do other duties when the military is doing what they pointed out. surveillance duties that allow customs and border patrol to arrest more people. here is the heart of the issue to me. despite donald trump s tough rhetoric and the huge drop in illegals, still 1,000 a day are coming in illegally. that s the size of a pittsburgh. the size of a cincinnati every year. and so even though it s dropping, there is still way too many people flaunting our laws to come in here. i think donald trump is doing the right thing. sandra: why do you think the left is so up in airs by the decision by the president. democrat and republican administrations do the same. why is this so different? for the same reason that the wall that they once supported they now oppose. because it s donald trump. look, i still remain a comprehensive immigration reform republican. i want a permanent solution. i think immigration makes