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i m putting forth. in you ve got something better come with it. if you don t get on the stick. i thought that was admirable, courageous leadership is what the women showed. amy hill, i think you would disagree with that. no. i think you re totally sexist. i think it s ridiculous this day and age to be sitting there saying a woman just because she s a woman or a man just because he s a man can do anything better. if you look at the people who have also been cited as the obstructionists in congress, those happen to be some women, too. so i think you find good people and you find bad people everywhere you go. it has nothing to do with these men had the opportunity to step up. these women chose to step up. showing negotiating skills. other women were being as obstructive as the obstructive men. some of them were. not on the leadership side. that s the point. we don t have as many women on the leadership side that could step into that point. is that a good point? if there were
there s no way they re going to support this and it had a lot of people coming out saying they wouldn t support it. you know, even people like ted cruz. there s a lot of frustration on the republican leadership side of things because this is something they thought they could be a compromise they could get through. but there s no come prompromisea party. yeah, absolutely. but you point out there are some in the gop leadership quoted as saying, quote, does ted cruz have a plan to get 41 votes? really calling him out that there s a lot of lip service, but can you get anywhere with this? right, and that s frank thorpe, who s our house producer, who reported that on first read yesterday. i think that highlights the difference between pragmatism and ideology. a lot of these tea party folks feel like they were elected to wage ideological economic warfare, and they re not going to budge on what they believe. it s up to john boehner to try
advantage of this? no. not at all. they are speaking as one with john boehner. so that s, i think, the big difference is that boehner, cantor, mccarthy, throw paul ryan in there, this is a quartet that is moving as one, negotiating as one. there s no, none of this looking over the shoulder. on the leadership side, it s a much different story. yes, it really depends on how you want to try to view it. can you find more rank-and-file conservative republicans who are sort of not in the circle? yes. to complain. but there s no there s no alternative. bob, you, yesterday, shadowed grover norquist for quite some time. you went to the meeting, his wednesday meeting. that s right. he has all the time with some of the most powerful conservatives in d.c. and across the country attending. what was their attitude about
candidate. and now, it s been said over and over again, it s up to herman cain to get the information out and get it out in total. but that s important because we ve got some real issues to discuss in this campaign, and this is taking all of the bandwidth out of the discussion. so we re not able to talk about jobs. we re not able to talk about our position in the world. and that hurts. that hurts the american people. but you think he can t say, end of discussion, until he gets more information out there? no. the information comes out. it s got to come out in total. eleven legitimate questions have en raised and that information has to come forward. what is your bigger concern as a rival, the sexual harassment controversy or lack of foreign policy experience as he s shown? well, i think at some point the substance really does matter. and you ve got to have a commander in chief who actually understands the world in which we live. it s comple it s confusing. it s unpredictable. an