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that that will happen in geneva and just as we had a return to normalcy with our allies leading up to this meeting, i think we ll have a return to normalcy in how we talk to our adversaries. remember, during the cold war, leaders met, they met here in geneva to talk, right? putin and biden should meet, but it cannot be adverse to american national security interests, as i think helsinki was. let me add to our conversation nbc news senior international correspondent you listened to president biden s press conference. your reaction? i thought president biden was pretty straight about exactly how he was going to approach president putin. nicolle, here s one of my takeaways. we ve spoken in the past and kind of said to each other, what is putin doing now, trying to

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