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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110505:02:36:00

thanks for being here with us tonight. another discredited figure from the bush administration is claiming that enhanced interrogation led to the death of osama bin laden. jose rodriguez was the cia s chief of counterterrorism from the years 2002 to 2005. rodriguez says that information provided by ksm and others about bin laden s courier was the lead information that eventually led to the location of bin laden s compound. so we can add this guy to the pile of bushies who were trying to give credit to the former president even though he stopped trying to catch osama bin laden. former vice president dick cheney has said enhanced interrogations was a factor. former defense secretary donald rumsfeld now says that waterboarding was critically important even though that contradicts some of his past statements. let s bring in retired cia officer glenn carle and author

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110505:05:36:00

the bush administration is claiming that enhanced interrogation led to the death of osama bin laden. jose rodriguez was the cia s chief of counterterrorism from the years 2002 to 2005. rodriguez says that information provided by ksm and others about bin laden s courier was the lead information that eventually led to the location of bin laden s compound. so we can add this guy to the pile of bushies who were trying to give credit to the former president even though he stopped trying to catch osama bin laden. former vice president dick cheney has said enhanced interrogations was a factor. former defense secretary donald rumsfeld now says that waterboarding was critically important even though that contradicts some of his past statements. let s bring in retired cia officer glenn carle and author of the upcoming book the interrogator. mr. carle, good to have you with us tonight.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20110511:23:10:00

being arrogant and as one intelligence official told me, not very good with bringing his followers into the planning process. they don t like that about him. fran, lastly, help me understand how the intelligence process will work in the sense you have this new volume of information and the people analyzing it, many of them are the people who were wrong. what is the calling of making sure you sort of reset your perspective buttons as you study? i actually think people are, inside the intelligence and law enforcement community, because it s an interagency task force, that helps put aside sort of preconceived notions. people are incredibly enthusiastic and excited about getting into this and understanding where we re wrong, what can we learn from it. and, you know, this has been pushed out even beyond the fbi. i talked to a source in the customs and border patrol who said they re getting lead information. this is being spread so widely throughout the u.s. government. the good news to

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