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the worse o worst of the worst e baker is with us. do you understand where they celebrate, where isis celebrates and we re horrified? no. look, i have been doing this a long time. and overseas and operations against a variety of terrorists. you never get to that point where you necessarily understand it. it s a level of depravity that we have a hard time. we are not wired to understand this. i mean, look, just in terms of surveying the target, the manchester arena, these people don t live in a bubble. and, you know, this individual, the attacker who they have identified, they didn t act on their own. so there was surveillance they understand who was going to be in that arena. they understand it was going to be children and young people. and then the attacker himself goes in before setting off the device surrounded by children and young people. we don t understand that mind set. and so when you hear people

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