time for today. thank you to all my guests ruby wax, broadcaster and writer, clive tulloh, executive producer of when ruby wax met, layla smith, head of objective media group, and mark sammon, executive producer of changing rooms. the media show, back at the same time next week, so thanks very much for watching and goodbye. hello there. many parts of the uk will have another cool and cloudy day on tuesday. monday the sunshine was restricted more to sheltered western areas of the uk. we had some sunshine in the southwest before the cloud increased and temperatures reached 20 degrees in plymouth. highest temperature was in castlederg in country tyrone, northern ireland. only 15 degrees in aberdeen and scarborough. and this was the cool and grey picture that we had
you to my guests. ruby wax, who needs little introduction actor, comedian, writer, mental health campaigner and clive tulloh, who worked with ruby as her producer for many years, including on some of those interviews that she did with the likes of donald trump and imelda marcos. i wonder what it s like for both of you to be reunited via zoom. well, usually, i touch clive a lot. there s a lot of interaction between our limbs. luckily, he s burnt. his face is like a beet, so i m very turned off. clive, she s not in the same room as you, so what was ruby like to work with? erm. laughter she was. talk, clive. she was. she was always exciting to work with, and it was always thrilling. it was thrilling to work with her, and it s been even more thrilling to reunite after 20 years. yeah. well, you re both very welcome. layla smith is head of objective media group, part of the tv giant all3media
they don t want it. but, actually, we didn t. actually i think that s the key, hopefully, to it sustaining an audience. layla, you mentioned the cube coming back later this year and, as you say, it had the £1 million specials aired last year. again, for those who haven t seen it, what does phillip schofield guide the viewer through on a typical episode of the cube? well, the cube, it s . a very simple tag line. you have nine lives to playl seven deceptively difficult they look simple, they rej deceptively hard games try and win a quarter of a million pounds. | and inside the confines - of the perspex cube, simple games are incredibly hard. so, that s the game. there were nine series on itv over the last, . gosh, however many years, 15 years, and it s been offair. but we did change it up quite a lot. - we felt like it needed - new elements to come back, and it wasn tjust £1 million.
get anything five minutes. i need to move in. that doesn t exist any more. so i go, ok, that s not my interest. i suppose what i was getting at was, we ve talked about rebooting programmes, but do people in front of the camera have to acknowledge the need to reboot as well to continue their careers? if i was doing more, but i m not that interested. these were movie stars with skills, and the thrill of spending time with them will never happen again. so, i wouldn t even know. i would invent something else. i would make up another style of show. layla, how much further do you think this rebooting trend has got to go? ithink. i think it will be. so i don t want to write off the reboots that are comingl because i know you ve listed them, but i think there - was also and i hate this word because i know we re all a bit. over it, but there was also a covid thing here. - there were certain shows, and i think the cube - was part of this too, - we couldn t do audiences,
around the house and they would have to film us. and if ruby said oh, look at that picture up there , if they didn t swing the camera and look at the picture and then come back to see our reaction, they didn t make the squad. you wanted the camera to have a personality, notjust a piece of dead meat. and layla, iwonder, given that celebrities in that kind of format were much more prepared to let their guards down to a good degree, perhaps in a way they hadn t much on british television much before, did that lead us down a route towards programmes like i m a celebrity get me out of here many years thereafter? yeah. clive, you know this, i m sure. which isjim allen, whose s- someone we all know very well, watched the joanna lumley- programme that clive produced. and it came from there. we sat and sort of said, well, what happens if it s notjust l joanna on a desert island? what happened if you take celebrities and really-