smoke canisters, fireworks and magazine clips. one source close to the open probe says they actually believe the gun jammed. ten hours later, the suspect is still at large in new york. i m joined now for breaking coverage by jim cavanaugh. this is a story that s captivated new yorkers and people around the country have watched it. in its outlines at times, it was scary and reminiscent of something that could have been even worse. what do you make of what is known and the evidence that the authorities have recovered, jim? well, ari, you know, your lawyerly background, you understand these things. we have a lot of evidence in that bag. prints, dna, sweat. touch dna. ballistics. and the gun that can be traced. it could be traced right back to the owner. sometimes that happens. it could be a stolen gun. we also know the u-haul van was
if he s not coming forward with the plan, it s somebody else s plan. do you understand that? i mean, he says it s leadership. that s not really the definition of leadership. i mean, that s more like deliberation, the president, as we know, comes from a lawyerly background. he likes deliberation. that s not playing a game. it s all about politics. that s his style. i mean, leadership is proposing something bold or a plan of some kind and then persuading people to come along with you. that s not exactly the president s style. it s like going out to a battlefield against the other army and saying ok, you make the first move because you re going to counter me anyway. that makes no sense. that s his worst moment as press secretary. if somebody told him to do that, they should be fired. brian, just remember when it came to the health care plan, that wasn t his plan, the president of the united states said hey, congress. democrats in congress, come up with a plan and i will push i
with him that day at the protest when he was arrested so this man had a lot of money. agnes, when you did speak with him in court and he represented himself through trial what, did you find his demeanor to be like, and what did you find his personality to be like when speaking to you about the situation he found himself in? right. mr. lee believed he would win, but it was the man did not come from a lawyerly background. i don t think he knew what he was really getting himself into. he i believe the laurene asked him there whether he still wanted a public defender as the trial began because it was obvious that he would have a tough time defending himself. and was he he wasn t being held on bail, was he? he bailed himself out and went through this process, or was he being held? i believe he was being held,
my plan, it makes it a lot harder for that plan to be the basis for bipartisan compromise. says i m looking better and better. ok, if it s not leadership, is it followership? if he s not coming forward with the plan, it s somebody else s plan. do you understand that? i mean, he says it s leadership. that s not really the definition of leadership. i mean, that s more like deliberation, the president, as we know, comes from a lawyerly background. he likes deliberation. that s not playing a game. it s all about politics. that s his style. i mean, leadership is proposing something bold or a plan of some kind and then persuading people to come along with you. that s not exactly the president s style. it s like going out to a battlefield against the other army and saying ok, you make the first move because you re going to counter me anyway. that makes no sense. that s his worst moment as press secretary. if somebody told him to do that, they should be fired. brian, just remem