apes why are you here? get out of here. it s just absolutely unacceptable. all these events happen in oklahoma ferguson new york they re not any different than seattle. how wide do these problems run and how far back do they go? joining me now is lawrence ross author of the divine nine a history of african-american fra tern tistyies ternties. and chelsea davis, head of the black student group at ou. they re the ones that first posted the video online. thank you both for being here. thank you reverend. thanks for having me. lawrence the big news today, the local chapter hiring a lawyer. what are the legal tensions that play between the school and fraternities? well, fraternities and schools typically have traditionally have had a relationship that is kind of i don t want to say tenuous
gonzalez in virginia with 11 guns in his car. he had 7 loaded magazines and map showing the white house. officers warned is secret service. a month later agents stopped gonzalez outside the white house with a hatchet. they didn t find anything in his car and they let him go. and it was just two weeks later that gonzalez broke in hopping the white house fence and sprinting inside with a hatchet and a knife. he passed a stairwell to the first family s bedrooms and he made it all the way to the east room before getting tackled. in the end, this blunder, along with embarrassments involving prostitutes and drunk agents forced the director to step down. the new director came in promising change. we ve got training in place. we ve got an integrity board in place. we ve got a table of penalties in place to try to address those types of issues so that we re consistent. but now director joseph clancy is facing the first big scandal of his own. two high ranking agents were just reas
somebody says it was talk to us. we know it was not the national headquarters. when they are talking about being taught the songs, it was done by somebody in a two or three-year period there who has passed it down and said here s a chant that we want to teach you. but the investigations tonight indicating this story isn t over. how did this chant start and where will this end? joining me now is lawrence ross author of the dinvine nine. thank you, rev. lawrence you know the culture of fraternities as well as anyone. are you surprised that this investigation is widening to chapters at other schools? no not at all. in fact i m just surprised that we are surprised. if you actually understand the
they ve been let down because they look for an ideal, particularly for sae, the idea of a true gentleman. and what they really received was someone who said no you re not fraternalism does not transcend in terms of all of our differences, race, ethnicity, beliefs, unifying us around principles and ideas, you have really just reduced me and humiliated me and this is what you think. how can i now look at all of my other brothers and think i m an equal in your eyes? that s got to be a devastating psychological view for a young african-american men as a member of that fraternity. lawrence ross and jonathan capehart, thank you both for your time tonight. we re going to stay on this. thanks. coming up, we re awaiting the press conference in ferguson missouri. we ll be back after this. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does?
comes one week after a department of justice released a blistering report that detailed racial bias in the ferguson police department. but since its release, chief jackson has refused to comment. do you think that the department has a race problem? do they have a problem? and are you going to fix it? what are you going to do about it? i need to really have time to analyze this report so i can comment on it. why do you need time to analyze the report. you should have known what was going on in your department correct? right? what do you think of this doj report and what are you going to do about it? just any idea what it is you are going to do yourself about this as the chief of the department? i m going to analyze the report and take action where necessary. okay? does that mean you re going to stay around? i m going to take action where necessary. now that action has been made for him. in his resignation letter the chief says it was with, profound sadness that