we might have to tell bill helmer and dana perino they will be starting 15 minutes late. i gradually ask you to get dressed. jillian: you are starting 15 minutes late if you do all the pieces. i have more to add. todd: lawrence jones - so is the other guy. reporter: beijing intentionally spread covid at an athletic tournament in october of 2019. senior fellow gordon chang joined us to break down how he feels about president xi s decision in the early stages of the pandemic. he lied about transmissibility, he knew was contagious but will the world it was not and then pressured other countries to accept rivals from china without restrictions when he was walking down his own country. you put those things together and come to the conclusion the 4.7 million deaths outside china were intentional. todd: and reports the site is