obamacare without raiding medicare under the obama plan. absolutely not. i thought we saw a complete tras in style and substance. the vice president s style was bluster, and i don t think we need that in a leader. ryan s style was solutions. what the president has done is taken $716 billion from estimate, not our estimate, that s the congressional budget office to pay for obama care, the exchangs of their program. that ruins medicare for so many seniors and puts in place there 15-member independent payment advisory board to make certain that they quote, save that money. jamie: paul ryan points out and this is interesting because you are a surgeon we ll have nobody potentially on that committee that has a medical background. that s exactly right. jaime as you know by law a majority of them cannot have