but you re right, i wrote a book about us drifting into that, i called it drift. i think these issues are big and need a debate and maybe even need a big partisan debate to get some attention. i think that s right. i think in some ways the shocking thing is it s taken us 12 years to start having this debate in a meaningful way. maybe it s a good sign, though, that we re now ready to have it. i think for a long time after 9/11 you couldn t even ask the question anymore of, gosh, is the eternal war, law of war paradigm the right way to think about the threat posed by terrorism, because you would immediately get, what, do you think it s an ordinary crime? obviously, that s insufficient, you fool. why do you love terrorists? yeah, and i think we have moved past that to have, i hope, a somewhat candid and serious minded debate, gee, global terrorism s threat today is sort of like war in some ways, it s sort of like crime in other ways, maybe we need to get past this either/or stuff
permanent authorization for use of military force is on the table makes me feel nudgy about what direction that s all going, but you re right, i wrote a book about us drifting into that, i called it drift. i think these issues are big and need a debate and maybe even need a big partisan debate to get some attention. i think that s right. i think in some ways the shocking thing is it s taken us 12 years to start having this debate in a meaningful way. maybe it s a good sign, though, that we re now ready to have it. i think for a long time after 9/11 you couldn t even ask the question anymore of, gosh, is the eternal war, law of war paradigm the right way to think about the threat posed by terrorism, because you would immediately get, what, do you think it s an ordinary crime? obviously, that s insufficient, you fool. why do you love terrorists? yeah, and i think we have moved past that to have, i hope, a somewhat candid and serious minded debate, gee, global
table makes me feel nudgy about what direction that s all going, but you re right, i wrote a book about us drifting into that, i called it drift. i think these issues are big and need a debate and maybe even need a big partisan debate to get some attention. i think that s right. i think in some ways the shocking thing is it s taken us 12 years to start having this debate in a meaningful way. maybe it s a good sign, though, that we re now ready to have it. i think for a long time after 9/11 you couldn t even ask the question anymore of, gosh, is the eternal war, law of war paradigm the right way to think about the threat posed by terrorism, because you would immediately get, what, do you think it s an ordinary crime? obviously, that s insufficient, you fool. why do you love terrorists? yeah, and i think we have moved past that enough to have, i hope, a somewhat more candid and serious-minded debate, gee,
if you assess the threat of international terrorism to be the equivalent of war then you are in the law of war paradigm. this is not like robbing the local 7-eleven where you resort to the law enforcement paradigm. it doesn t mean there are no rules at all. it means you have to be look at people who are engaged in operations against the united states. and this memo appears to be fairly narrowly tailored and i think entirely appropriate for the kind of threat we face from international terrorists. gregg: a couple federal courts recently considered what we are talking about. one federal judge said the killing of an enemy combatant albeit a u.s. citizen is not matter for judicial review. it s an executive branch function. you would agree? the constitution is clear under article two that the
an event in minneapolis to convince lawmakers to sign his measures into law. there is no legislation being proposed to subvert the second amendment. tell them now is the time for action. we are not going to wait until the next attack or the next aurora. martha: a lot of people have different feelings about all this and whether the focus is where it should be. bob beckel and mary catherine hamm. one of the things a lot of people are frustrated with, you look at adam lanza, you look at