thomas webster perhaps going behind bars for any other january 6th defendant. nbc news confirming a court appearance for pat cipollone and pat philbin set to go in front of the grand jury in washington. the mississippi water crisis bad to worse, telling people to shower with their mouths closed. businesses still closed. students still learning remotely. the fema administrator will join us live later in the show about what is being done on the federal level to fix it. i m hallie jackson in washington. with me nbc news correspondent vaughn hill lard in west palm beach, ken dilanian, washington correspondent for the new york times and msnbc contributor charlie savage and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade is joining us too. vaughn, start with you on the ground there outside the building where all the action is going down. bring us up to speed on what we need to know and what happens next? hallie, i was talking with our colleagues maria and mar
details. that was the worst day of my life that i found out about my mom. a loving couple. a romantic hike. a secluded spot. she was turning to look at the bird. it s like her feet just went out from under her. all of a sudden i hear yelling coming from downstream. there was mrs. muller floating face up. a wife falling to her death. her husband falling apart. he was panicking and shaking. crying. the evidence at the scene makes you believe something entirely different happened. he told me she fell 20 feet. where were the injuries? why did i not see what i expected to see? a search for truth in the woods and water. if your theory is right, it is. loo like she was being hunted. almost like a hare and a wolf. two chilling accounts of what happened to the mom they adored. one seemingly unsolve able mystery. you either believe crazy story a or crazy story b. both stories are crazy. which one do you want to go with? winding down a mountain in southwest col
day leslie died was unusual. fred, to him, showed a lack of emotion. but what really spoke volumes to the sheriff and his team was something they knew well. the terrain around cottonwood creek. as fred told them, leslie did a swan dive from up there, landing on her head and shoulders on this rock. then, she slid into the water. a horrible accident. but to local law enforcement something seemed off. the first trained rescuer on the scene noticed at first what appeared to be a major inconsistency in that story. after such a treacherous fall, leslie s body didn t look at all injured. he told me she fell 20 feet. where was the trauma? where were the injuries? why did i not see what i expected to see? reporter: one look at the dropoff and sheriff bruce was asking the same thing.
talking about some of the bipartisan legislative wins we ve seen over the last year and a half a lot of which we don t talk about on a daily basis. he s going to contrast what s possible if democrats and independents and make this distinction, mainstream republicans, work together versus what is at risk by the so-called extreme maga wing of the republican party. these election deniers, embracing political violence, the threats we re seeing on law enforcement something the president will lay out in stark terms tonight, and a speech that is informed, white house officials have been reminding me, by a conversation the president had about a month ago he gathered some presidential historians to meet in the white house and they laid out in their view the fact it is not hyperbole to say america s democracy is at risk. this is a president that heard that message that has helped informed the writing of his speech and underscored the necessity of giving it with under ten weeks before voters go t
screen, we re waiting for a press conference and hopefully will find out the identity of the shooter. we ll find out if that shooter is from sutherland springs, texas, or outside. based on that information that we could possibly learn shortly, what will that tell you, ted williams. that will tell us if, in fact, we re dealing with an international domestic terrorist, number one, or someone mentally impaired or if we re dealing with somebody actually in that community. the fact that the vehicle was able to leave that church and somebody had to have given law enforcement something to show that they had knowledge of that vehicle, a description, shall we say, that s very significant and important. as you said and we certainly don t know, if this guy was killed by law enforcement or he