and as soon as he picked the gun up, why, i said, drop the gun, drop it quick, because i was afraid that some law enforcement person would see this individual holding this gun and would shoot him. as soon as i told him to drop it, he dropped it. the real hero here is the individual that picked up the chair and hit him. and the other individual who helped me take this individual down to the ground. did he say anything, the gunman, during the time you pounced on top of him and were holding him down? the only thing he said was, i asked him, i said, what in the world would you do something like this for? and he didn t answerm me. i had my left hand, i was choking him. the other individual had his knee on the back of his neck. about that time, the other individual put a lot more weight on his neck and pushed his face
believe, caused a number of people to lose their re-elections in 1994 when the house shifted to republican control, which it was under for a long time. i think a lot of democrats looking back on that experience, not all of them are oldies like me, but some have learned about this, are scared to go near anything the nra does not. the support. i need to tell you that i have an f-minus rating from the nra. i m not sure that s the thing i m proudest of in my whole life but that is because i believe there are too many guns and too much ammunition in the hands of the wrong people. 283 million guns in civilian hands in america. almost one gun per person. we know probably half the population doesn t own any guns, is way too many guns. starting with restraining the amount of ammunition, especially in these rapidly fired clips, is it seems to me, a no-brainer. every responsible law
i think a lot of democrats looking back on that experience, not all of them are oldies like me, but some have learned about this, are scared to go near anything the nra does not. the support. i need to tell you that i have an f-minus rating from the nra. i m not sure that s the thing i m proudest of in my whole life but that is because i believe there are too many guns and too much ammunition in the hands of the wrong people. 283 million guns in civilian hands in america. almost one gun per person. we know probably half the population doesn t own any guns, is way too many guns. starting with restraining the amount of ammunition, especially in these rapidly fired clips, is it seems to me, a no-brainer. every responsible law enforcement person in the country supports this. and law enforcement can be a good part of our leverage in this, what i would call, teachable moment after congress
was right in front of me, he took the clip another clip out of his pocket and she reached up and grabbed the clip and threw it to the ground. and this happened at exactly the same time we were taking the individual to the ground. and so when he hit the ground, his gun was laying about six inches in front of his left hand. and another individual that was there to see the congresswoman reached down and grabbed the gun to take it away from him, to get it away so that he couldn t get it. as soon as he picked the gun up, i said, drop the gun. drop it quick. i was afraid that some law enforcement person would see this individual holding this gun and would shoot him. as soon as i told him to drop it, he dropped it. the real hero here is the individual that picked up the chair and hit him and the other
between a suspect and a person of interest? this is a person of interest, they just want to speak to? well, the law enforcement person i m talking to, i m not even sure would go as far to call him a person of interest. it s somebody they want to talk to, they want to question, they want to learn more about him, what he was doing in that vicinity and they re trying to discern if he had any connection. in addition to talking to him, they are talking to others in the area who might have seen them together to help build a relationship, if one exists between the two. got you. you were going on to say something else when i interrupted you. sorry. go ahead, finish your thought. we ve been looking on the internet for more clues about this individual. there are a lot of postings on youtube from loughner. some of them quite hard to decipher. you re looking at some of them right there. most of them are like this,