this is very, very difficult to stop.es tucker: how would you even go about trying to stop it at the law enforcement level? i don t want to come on your show and just complain. there is a way to at least hopefully make a dent. i think the country would be astounded if they realized me being a former federal agent and a former new york city police officer, how few people of interest are under active physical surveillance. i m a libertarian at heart. i think we wasted a lot of time on mass data collection from people who have nothing to do with anything. we ve fallen in love with signal intelligence, collecting emails and social media and we fallen out of love with old school shaking of the trees and communities. an old expression for going into communities in developing high-quality investigative sources.in it s how we broke up the mob, it s how we can do it against this radical islamic ideology. we are never going to stop this
a duty to tell the investing public what i know. how did you go about alerting the states, dhs alert the states and local communities about what was going on? and i know that you did designation for critical infrastructure. what i m trying to get at is, given your background and your recommendation that we do something more now to really alert the state and local governments, how do we do it now? and what would you suggest would be a better way to go about alerting them? we did have an ongoing dialogue throughout the fall with state election officials at the law enforcement level with dhs, there was office the public october 7th statement but the conversation didn t stop there. i continued to issue public statements and we continued to have a dialogue with state officials as they came in to seek our cyber assistance at the
a duty to tell the investing public what i know. how did you go about alerting the states, dhs go about alerting the states and local communities about what was going on? i know that you did the designation for critical infrastructure. what i m trying to get at is, given your background and your recommendation that we do something more now to really alert the state and local governments, how do we do it now? what would you suggest would be a better way to go about alerting them? well, we did have an ongoing dialogue throughout the fall with state election officials at the law enforcement level with dhs, there was, of course, the public october 7 statement. but the conversation didn t stop there. i continued to issue public statements. we continued to have a dialogue with state officials as they came in to seek our cyber assistance. at the staff level.
how does that make him a stand-up guy? i m saying there are credibility issues going on with robert mueller specifically when it talks about leaks from his own investigation. the only reason we know anything is going on with jared kushner is the wait, wait, wait, why would the president be interviewing him as fbi director if he s not credible? i think it s something helpful to one credibility thing that i think hold on. in fairness, did you want to ask a question? is it normal for robert mueller to have investigations where early on there s already two leaks driving news stories about things that are pertinent to the let s let robert robert, can you weigh in on that? of course, i can weigh in. i think anybody who s spent any time around a criminal investigation at the federal law enforcement level knows that the fbi does in fact leak.
time around a criminal investigation at the federal law enforcement level knows that the fbi does in fact leak that is not a news flash. and it s look, i agree with the point that that that is troubling. it should not be coming out of bob mueller s office. but unfortunately with regard to a high profile investigation and i have been part of one, there are very few people that you can trust. and with regard to matters that you need to insure do not go into the public domain, you tell very few people. i mean, i can recall with regard to the matters involving whether or not the decision whether or not to charge the president of the united states once he left office, bill clinton, that with regard to the resolution of that matter i told basically three people. my deputy, my chief of