menendez. as we begin this hour, action in the face of distraction. the bluster and bombast of donald trump s new reporting shows jack smith is relying on the facts, not the fury. also this hour, departed to pardon trump or not. a new witness tests in the republican quest for the nomination. we ve pardoned a president before, but doing so again presents a further danger to democracy. we are going to ask historian, michael beschloss. and my sit down with actress eva longoria, making her flamin hot directorial debut. this is american voices. we begin this hour with donald trump and his allies, trying to deflect attention away from his decision to keep government secrets after his presidency. we ve heard these excuses before. trump is relying on the same old script, distract with baseless claims of a witch hunt, to stopped stop his political witch hunt. on his knockoff version of twitter, calling special counsel jack smith, quote deranged, saying the indictment is fake.
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risk and threat. you ve got to do that across all the agencies that greg just rattled off the marshals, georgia state patrol, county and local police, of course. but you also have to understand something that greg alluded to, which is, this is very different in terms of what the indictment is going to be about, if it ever comes about, and that is, it is about trying to overturn a valid election. it is about the big lie, the same big lie that incited the violence on january 6th. so, good news over 1000 arrests for participants in the january 6th violence has had a chilling effect, particularly on organized groups. that s the good news. the bad news is, they ve had a lot of time to think about this. fani willis has projected this thing way ahead of time, and talked about what may be happening. that gives people time to plan some bad things. right, is a certain circularity to that certain case. i want to ask you, frank, miami prepared for up to 50,000
secrets after his presidency. we ve heard these excuses before. trump is relying on the same old script, distract with baseless claims of a witch hunt, to stopped stop his political witch hunt. on his knockoff version of twitter, calling special counsel jack smith, quote deranged, saying the indictment is fake. make no mistakes trump s social media rents, they are a sideshow. on the other hand, smith is relying on the evidence. letting the 37 count federal indictment tell the story of how trump refused to hand over classified information, and even went to great lengths to hide the documents from the government. while trump is playing the victim. his first court appearance, tuesday, in miami, served as an early indicator of how the government might proceed. for now, it appears prosecutors might try to avoid unnecessary court battles. court watchers say the special counsel s team, and the magistrate judge, showed restraint during trump s arraignment. trump was not required to hand over
joining me now, greg bluestein, he s a political reporter for the atlanta journal constitution. and an msnbc political contributor. also with us msnbc national security analyst frank figliuzzi, he s a former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence. greg, atlanta police, fulton county sheriff s office, they both sent employees to miami this week. talk me through how these law enforcement agencies are preparing for possible indictment. on for cement agency see this as a dry run, see what happened in miami and manhattan as a dry run for prosecutors to pursue charges against the former president and his top deputies. because, remember, here in atlanta, this indictment could be much broader than what we have seen in miami and manhattan. it could evolve members of donald trump s inner circle. it could involve local officials here in georgia. so, we could be looking at a very broad indictment, and they, are down in miami they were down in miami this week, picking up tips on how