particular deal. now that is the west virginia piece there, that joe manchin says, no, i m the senator from coal country. i won t do the big aggressive dramatic things that progressives wanted to do and president biden wanted to do but the president seems confident, lauren, he can get a compromise even on a climate package that will be at least enough for the progressives to say it s a down payment. think where the president has gotten joe manchin up to this point. joe manchin didn t want to do anything. he s sitting right around $1.5 trillion in programming here. yes, there is a sense that there is a way to thread this needle on climate with joe manchin. they are trying to figure out how to repurpose some of the money they were going to use for one energy initiative, whether they can use some kind of tax incentive to make sure that that money gets used still to deal with climate change, but it is one of the remaining sticking issues, and it may be a smaller issue than that larger
i do think i ll get a deal. this morning the president had breakfast with the house speaker nancy pelosi and the senate majority leader joining in my zoom. their task is to help the president find the finish line. thursday the president shared a ton of inside information and shared his optimism of reaching what he called quote a bigger darn deem than obamacare. the president did list four or five areas, that s a quote from him, four or five where he says the big divides remain. they are climate, paid leave, medicare expansion, drug pricing and revenue. so let s discuss. with me in studio to share their reporting cnn s lauren forecast, sungman kim of the washington post and cnn s kaitlan collins. i ll start with you. remarkable in the decision. the president decided i ve been in weeks of meetings about the details and all the horse trading and now i ll go public and lay it out. yeah, this is often a characteristic of the support that when you ask him a question he usually pretty