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Transcripts For MSNBC NOW With Alex Wagner 20131028

All that you know, all that appealing. Either he didnt know or he did know. Either one he gets in trouble. You mention the bush book, which is very nice of you to mention, it does go back to the Bush Administration. These are the same issues, right, for going on for more than a decade. To have begun in 2002 happened during the run up to the war in iraq. In that time we were bugging delegations at the u. N. Trying to get a resolution through about that. What president obama has done inherited surveillance structure he said he was going to change but, in fact, has kept broadly intact. Yeah. Indeed in the wall street journal it says officials at the nsa has so many eavesdropping operations under way it wouldnt have been practical to brief him on all of them. These decisions are made at the nsa. The president doesnt sign off on this stuff. That protocol is now under review, the official added. You better bet that protocol under review. It does not seem like good Security Policy to have the

Transcripts For MSNBCW NOW With Alex Wagner 20131028

0 that would damage relations if it was discovered. if he didn t know he presided over an nsa that was unaccountable. if i had to bet i d put my money on he didn t know all along. if he did, it would be too impractical to tell him. i take the president his word about this, just given the scope of how much information was getting vacuumed up. that s some high-level information, though, isn t it? this is different than metadata, to peter s point of this is tapping angela merkel s cell phone. if the president did not know that we were vacuuming up calls and information from our closest allies, then the thing really, really, has spun completely out of control. ezra, the third point there, okay, so maybe the president is mad. maybe the american public is mad. the jury is still out on that. the third question is are the leaders themselves actually mad? i think it s different with the germans, you have brazilians who canceled state visit, mexicans calling for ambassadorial meetings, t

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