on runway 13. that may mean something to you. i m just the passenger when we land on these flights so that may give you perspective and it slid off here. it was an md-88, but in these kinds of conditions especially at laguardia tom, you and i both know that they often had shut down what it seems like rather quickly. yeah, no that s absolutely true. this is, you know i i m not sure now if this is the busiest or jfk is the busiest airport in new york. they rival each other clearly for domestic travel. laguardia is the busiest, and as you know it s a difficult airport to come into because you re really coming right over the city there p.and if this if this situation is that they have got a tremendous amount of snow and ice buildup there at laguardia compounding with the traffic that they experienced on a regular basis into laguardia that can really complicate matters. they do, however, as you know have very experienced air traffic controllers at la guardia. it s one of the most dema