separatist territory? yes, it s exactly one piece where the separatists have operational control at the moment. you don t happen to know if there were any americans on board the plane, do you, sir? yeah, i can t give you any sort of official information on that. we have now the preliminary data, but i would be reluctant to give those at the moment. i certainly can understand that. ukraine important minister pavlo klimkin. i want to straight to barbara starr. barbara, you ve got new information from the intelligence community about this plane crash. what can you tell us? jake, what everyone has suspected the u.s. now willing to say is true. a senior u.s. official telling me that the u.s. government now has concluded that the plane the
there s a fair amount still happening here. and i appreciate you having me on. knowal snyder joining us from the site at of the plane crash in ukraine. hopefully we can talk to you again tomorrow. cheers. bye-bye. back here in the studio with jim sciutto, you just heard noah s firsthand account. it sounds like a tragic and devastating scene. we re obviously not showing you utmost graphic and extreme images. the ukrainian government really doing a full-court press talking about how this is the handiwork of pro-russian separatists. they ve even produced what they claim to be audiotape. tell us about that. this is a short time ago, the head of the ukrainian secret service went on camera to say they ve intercepted phone calls between pro-russian separatists and russian intelligence on the other side of the border inside russia discussing the shootdown of this plane. in fact, a short time afterwards they released a transcript which we translated. we don t have that to put on the
firefighters have been doing their best throughout and now i think they re trying to figure out what to do overnight. so the victims are still out there, their bodies are still on the ground strapped into their seats, et cetera? reporter: some are strapped into their seats. some have been sort of blown to bits to the point where you can t tell whether it was a man or a woman. some are just kind of scattered. people, locals say that the plane exposeded in the air so it was kind of it fell down in pieces, are they said. so bits of the plane, bits of the bodies, bits of people s possessions. you mentioned investigators on the site. does it look like there s an orderly process going on right now? i wouldn t say investigators. local rescue crew screws.
23 seconds north and 38 degrees 31 minutes and 33 seconds east. the ukrainian authorities believe that the plane was shot down. at this stage, however, malaysia is unable to verify the cause of this tragedy. but we must and we will find out precisely what happened to this flight. nor stone will be left unturned. if it tran pires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must
evidence if you like of what took place. the question of course, is who bears the responsibility of that the investigation. and what seems to be already from the ukrainian president, he s already said ukraine will do the investigation. it s the state of occurrence. now we ve got to make sure that the cease fire or the proposed cease fire by the rebels in that area is brought into the being so that they can get the debris and, of course, most crucially they can get the bodies away from the site. so there s a lot of oh logistics that need to be put in place, lots of negotiation and what s interesting is the prime minister said that he s getting assurances from all parts that they will be allowed to proceed. richard quest, miles o brien, stay where you are. much more on this breaking news story in a moment including new information on the area in which the plane was flying and the