and the when. in 165 million dollar loss, if it is not met tomorrow is real and there will be lay-offs. governor walker isn t choosing to lay-off because he wants to, it is because we are broke. as president obama mentioned vilifing public employees. we are not, we value their service. what we are trying to do is what the voters told us they wanted in the last election. get control of our spending, debt and deficits and get the state back on the right track. we have to deal with our labor costs. what the governor wanted to do with the repair budget was to cue up some of the labor cost deal with restructuring of the debt so we he prepares his budget tomorrow and delivers it and shows the cuts that have to be made he will give the locals and the state tools to address those big cuts. greta: okay. that 165 million dollars in savings, last week i was told the deadline the drop dead