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john burress, lisa bloom still with us. as we look at what s being discussed right now, john, the issue here of dna on the gun, key perhaps to the story line that trayvon martin had reached and perhaps touched the gun that george zimmerman had had. what are you hearing from the lab analyst? at one point he was saying he could not include or exclude dna in his analysis. what s your thought, john? that s my thought. i mean, i thought initially that it was going to be an exclusion totally of trayvon. i didn t really get that from him. i get that there wasn t enough samples there for him to include or exclude. so in that sense, it s neutral. it was designed to impeach, if possible, mr. zimmerman s claim that he had reached for the gun. but i don t really see that. i don t hear that. what you really have is the dna on things that are pretty obvious. we re probably going to go to the sweatshirt.