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know. he still has appeals rights. he still could seek a rehearing from the d.c. circuit or go to the supreme court and on that basis you shouldn t send him to prison now. this isn t the system of justice i know, at which point judge nichols said you should sit down. well, does he have a point or is the judge explain the background on that. i think that david schoen who is bannon s criminal defense attorney now and i should note also represented donald trump in his second of two impeachments, he is a real defense lawyer s defense lawyer. he is not a partisan hack. that having been said did he get very impassioned in a way that judge nichols found inappropriate and disrespectful? seems to be he cross add line as far as judge nichols was concerned. lisa rubin, thank you very much. always good to see you. coming up, what beau biden s widow told the court today about the, quote, terrible experience she had in the aftermath of her husband s death when she began a relationship with

case that comes from 1961, the same case that prevented judge nichols from allowing bannon to make the argument at his trial. still, judge nichols felt that maybe the d.c. circuit would take a different view this time, stayed the sentence. now that the d.c. circuit has agreed that its precedent stands robert costello. robert costello. remind us about robert costello. he was the defense s only substantive witness in the trump manhattan da s case. he was there of course to say that another one of his almost clients, would be clients, michael cohen was lying when he recounted the various interactions that they had had before cohen eventually decided to turn. and the judge was not happy with costello because costello was not acted in the judge s estimation appropriately in court. he threatened him with contempt if he continued to mutter and make objections that he wasn t qualified to make. bannon s lawyer today also got into it with the journal. what happened? bannon s lawyer

sentence on july 1st. bannon was found guilty on two counts of contempt of congress for refusing to comply with a january 6th committee subpoena two years ago. joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. where is he going and for how long? i m not sure we know where he s going yet, but he has to self-surrender on july 1st and he will serve a four-month sentence. one of my colleagues did a calculation today and she said that he is projected to be released, assuming he serves every day of his sentence, four days before election day this year. wow. why was he why did it take so long to send him to prison? he was found guilty to year ago. the judge kyle nichols, the same judge as today found it was appropriate to stay bannon s conviction while he appealed that conviction. bannon said he couldn t have willfully been in contempt of congress because he was relying on his advice of his then counsel robert costello. that was soundly rejected by the d.c. circuit on reliance of a

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