odesa, but this control of dniepro. you have the ability to control what s happening along the dnieper river. that s important to the next step. let me move to kyiv up close. what s really important as described is the activity that s there that s being contested but when they owned that, they now can begin to bring forces, additional forces in, and they can bring forces down into kyiv. what needs to happen, let me highlight this. you take the dnieper river through the middle of kyiv. now what needs to happen is the ukrainians need to start cutting the bridges across so that if you get russian forces on one side and russian forces on the other, they can t support each other and the advantage goes to the defender at that point. wow. i mean, it s amazing when you look at that. just the importance. when you think about where we are, all the modern technology, the power of a river.