yes. nbc news exclusive. might we see a subpoena of the former president himself? anything is possible. the exclusive interview with fulton county s da on her investigation, and her response to senator lindsey graham. and how fox and friends are exploring new gaps to excuse gun violence in america. what can regular pot use triggered women never stop lecturing them that would see like a conspiracy theory, right? all in, starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. a huge breakthrough for the january 6th committee. they have secured an interview with their biggest and most important witness yet. donald trump s white house counsel, pat cipollone. this comes after the committee spent weeks pressing cipollone to testify, in fact yesterday, they issued him a subpoena and vice chair liz cheney made this direct appeal during a hearing last month. our committee is certain that donald trump does not want mr. cipollone to testify here. indeed, ou
that hearing will take place after the committee has videotaped the testimony of pat cipollone. cipollone, think, is the trump white house s top lawyer. he s a man who, at least as far as we know, appears to have pushed back on some of the most dangerous and brazen ideas conceived of by the ex-president and his closest allies as they worked to overturn the results of the 2020 election. cipollone also held the same job as john dean whose legendary 1973 testimony was a turningpoint in the watergate investigation. here is what january 6 investigator john wood had to say right here on msnbc about the tremendous significance of the committee getting an interview with cipollone. it was really important that he would eventually end up testifying before the committee and on the record and videotaped so the american people can see it. i m glad that is coming together this friday so hopefully the committee will show some of the key clips of that interview during a hearing next week.
woman went on to say that not contradicting is not the same as confirming. more on that. and two people familiar with cipollone s testimony says the committee did not ask him if he told hutchinson that they would quote get charged with every crime imaginable, unquote, if they went to the capitol. he would not have confirmed that, apparently, confirmed that statement if they had asked the question. you also heard the congresswoman say that some of what they learned from pat cipollone today will roll out in the future hearings to come. will we be hearing and seeing? remember it was videotaped as well some of his testimony as soon as next week? and will the former president be watching? you got to figure this is one witness that he really, really hoped would not cooperate with this committee. our committee is certain that donald trump does not want mr. cipollone to testify here. i want to bring in ryan nobles here tonight. ryan, good to see you. seven hours, first of all, a
deposition that lasted about two and a half hours. when i get until the committee today? the truth, how about that for start? and where you asked to come in or did you volunteer to come in? i was asked to come in. subpoena or no? i honestly just was asked to come in. were you in concert than it but he in the white house when the type heard of december of january 2020? january 2021? during the time period that they focused on the committee has been focusing on? i haven t talked anybody in the white house in a long time. mulvaney of course served as chief of staff from late 2018 until march 2020. he then became special envoy to northern ireland. he resigned in the aftermath of the insurrection. former secretary of state, mike pompeo, also on the committees list, and today he confirmed that negotiations have been underway. we ve had discussions with them about potentially appearing before them. we are trying to find a way out. and there is this new intrig
stephanie ruhle. in other senior trump white house official has testified before the january six committee. this afternoon, former acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney, appeared for a closed-door deposition that lasted about two and a half hours. when i get until the committee today? the truth, how about that for start? and where you asked to come in or did you volunteer to come in? i was asked to come in. subpoena or no? i honestly just was asked to come in. were you in concert than it but he in the white house when the type heard of december of january 2020? jen way up to 20 2021? during the time period that they focused on the committee has been focusing on? i haven t talked anybody in the white house in a long time. mulvaney of course served as chief of staff from late 2018 until march 2020. he then became special envoy to northern ireland. he resigned in the aftermath of the insurrection. former secretary of state, mike pompeo, also on the committees