kind of leadership and let alone response that would be sort of in line with whatever the crisis is. and i that s not a political statement. how could you look at what happened this week and think this is a group of people that i have confidence in if something were to happen. but i actually i have known julian a long time, but i do disagree in one sense. i think some of these stories about the sort of absolute corruption of what s going on in the white house and the potential that jared kushner in particular was driving policy or meetings based around the ability of countries to pay to support the kushner enterprise is really scary for national security. one, it s because we now it s possible that kushner was looking out for himself and not america s interests, but you also have to remember, we have allies out here, not just enemies, not just people who want to manipulate jared kushner. allies who are looking at a world order that s kind of scary
you re looking at someone who has a career in the business world, where he has he maintains one foot in that business world, where he needs to run businesses and make sure that he continues to tend to the kushner enterprise. and then that same person has one foot into the foreign policy and national security world. and even if kushner plays by all the rules and does all the right things, the people that he s dealing with in these foreign countries, they understand that that gives him an amount of influence and leverage in the white house that will cause them to behave a certain way. so, i think at this point, with all of that under consideration, it s just very unlikely that he s going to get a security clearance. and i think that s probably the best thing for us at this point. before i get to john and does this hurt his effectiveness, gloria? well, it makes it almost impossible to do his job, it would seem to me. i mean, if you re in charge of peace in the middle east and
to. and the real issue here is that you re looking at someone who has a career in the business world, where he has he maintains one foot in that business world, where he needs to run businesses and make sure that he continues to tend to the kushner enterprise. and then that same person has one foot into the foreign policy and national security world. and even if kushner plays by all the rules and does all the right things, the people that he s dealing with in these foreign countries, they understand that that gives him an amount of influence and leverage in the white house that will cause them to behave a certain way. so, i think at this point, with all of that under consideration, it s just very unlikely that he s going to get a security clearance. and i think that s probably the best thing for us at this point. before i get to john and does this hurt his effectiveness, gloria? well, it makes it almost impossible to do his job, it would seem to me p. i mean, if you re in charg