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folks who want to lee. many afghans cannot get to the airport or they re being denied entry by the taliban. some of these folks are green card holders in the u.s. not able to get through taliban check points. joining us now is kristen rausch, a veteran of the war in afghanistan. and kristen, look, i know that you have been up for days on end trying to help people. this is your part of a vast network of veterans and former diplomatic folks and others trying to help afghans and americans get out. i know you have seen some of these reports about empty charter flights, some seats that are not filled. i wonder as you re undergoing these efforts how you re seeing that. i saw that photo of mostly empty plane and i cried. we have people just me and my team we re just volunteers. we re veterans.