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in the campaign, greta, this is important for americans to understand. i was not allowed to talk about things like that because those elitists, those who are the bra brainiacs in the gop machine running john mccain s campaign at the time said the media would eat us alive if we brought up these things, so what did that get us? this kind of complacence where we weren t allowed to tell the truth about what this kond candidate was. what it got us was a list of these scandals. this is kind of a red neck version of karl rove, how he uses his white board. and on this list, the scandals that are destroying america, greta. i ll tell you what i think is somewhat different as time goes on. i think the credibility of the media and i include myself in the media, that we re hovering near where congress is, which is
going to be compelled to do anything under obama care, ryan said why is that they re suing the administration? that is almost on a side that was lost and then, it was over by the next question. but if you put them together, and you end up with television where you saw the demeanor the vice president had in regards to ryan, i think that undid the advantage in rhetoric that he had in carrying the debate. it was so disrespectful. i agree with chris wallace. it was sort of almost unprecedented and kond sending. i think in the end, if television, you lose. charles, do you think that this debate tonight moved the needle at all? i don t. the reason is that whether you decide that vice president won or lost, people don t end up in the booth voting for number
going to be compelled to do anything under obama care, ryan said why is that they re suing the administration? that is almost on a side that was lost and then, it was over by the next question. but if you put them together, and you end up with television where you saw the demeanor the vice president had in regards to ryan, i think that undid the advantage in rhetoric that he had in carrying the debate. it was so disrespectful. i agree with chris wallace. it was sort of almost unprecedented and kond sending. i think in the end, if television, you lose. charles, do you think that this debate tonight moved the needle at all? i don t. the reason is that whether you decide that vice president won or lost, people don t end up in the booth voting for number
history shows that when there have been age differences the elder statesmen wins these vice presidential debates you had in cheney and edwards. cheney smacked down edwards, if you will, benson and quayle are the most famous. let s talk about the age difference, and, of course, the experience difference. we talked about the gender difference when it was sarah palin with joe biden, and this time around we re talking the age game. exactly. he has to be wise and knowledgeable and engaging without looking, you know, kond sending or in some way talking down to congressman ryan. congressm congressman ryan is a formidable figure. he has a lot of command of facts and figures. the democratic camp hopes he ll get lost in weeds and vice president biden can relate to his audience than congressman ryan. that s really up in the air. what about the fact in i think it s quite clear you have