that the koch brothers didn t get where they are today by backing down. joining us is the editor of r forbes. in the piece it says charles used to give his children sunday afternoon economics lectures. what do you think the lecture will be now that it appears speaker boehner and others may be forced to accept a tax hike on the rich? well, charles, when he lectured his children, he fancied himself more of a sucratic lecturer. if you look at the koch brothers, they are playing a game that s not measured in days or weeks or months or election cycles. they re playing a multidecade game. whatever is happening this week with the fiscal cliff, it s just one little blip in a multidecade goal to reshape how america looks politically, business.