helene, julia, thank you so much for starting us off this hour on the latest developments. grateful to you both. after the break, for us, the latest escalation in the culture war between florida governor ron desantis and disney. yep. disney. plus, president barack obama back on the national stage making it his mission to take on the disinformation that already threatens the next election in this country. and french president emmanuel macron fighting for his future in office. more on that high-stakes debate in the race s final days. deadline white house continues after a quick break. deadline white house continues after a quick break. this isn t dry food or wet food. it s not burnt brown pellets. the farmer s dog makes it simple to feed your dog real food. it s real meat and veggies. freshly-made. developed with vets. delivered right to your door. that s why dog lovers are choosing the farmer s dog. a smarter, healthier pet food. delivered.
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i mean, what can the democrats on the committee do with this sort of original source material about mcconnell and mccarthy s knowledge and rage at donald trump for inciting a deadly insurrection on january 6? the simplest step and way to use this new reporting would be to include it in a potential criminal referral to the justice department. one challenge that the committee is grappling with right now to our understanding not a final decision made is whether or not to put together essentially the case against donald trump and send it to doj and ask to bring charges. the fact there s reporting that mccarthy himself close to trump with a lot of knowledge of trump s mind set before, during and after the attack used the word incitement i think would
don t think so. it s a tough sell and generally a good point. part of the whole indifference to the rule of law is they don t kash what congress does but doj is different. the way to exert control is to charge him. that s why he is trying to get immunity. and it seems to me it is always seemed to me that there s a sort of three spheres of operation and one is guys like stone an alexander with the shadow trump friends ofd that communicate with the president. they ll give immunityhey decide they can t get the information anywhere else and really need it but their first playback is no you cooperate. here are the charges.
in a deferential way and to publicly announce what he would do. they didn t want to put out a statement right before trump addressed the supporters because presumably trump would be able to try to give people a last shred of hope. they didn t want to step on that. but there was a line for pence. he got as close to that line as possible and didn t cross it and that question is something that s central for the select committee and can only get more information on that from pence himself. harry, you have the incitement the intersects with the keeping the hope alive was the incitement. kevin mccarthy on the inside of this gambit saw donald trump as the inciter.