this. it happened back then. this is something that actually unites marco rubio and hillary clinton because they both believe in regime change, they both supported the regime change in libya, supported it in syria, but i ve been arguing the opposite. they were less safe when we toppled these regimes. if we were to topple asad in 2013 when marco rubio, obama, hillary clinton, all the neocons wanted to, isis would be in charge of all of syria now. it s a wonderful debate to have because maybe we re going to finally learn from history, the history of the middle east is, regime change hasn t helped us to become more safe. but i can t understand, if you really care, some neocons say they re ready to go? let s go. casey s got donald trump. no, it s not that. he has to go out and do his thing. he s a 3 and poll just came out, i m 42. so i think i do the exact same thing. i thought it was a little unfair that cnn was leading him along,
determined foe than i will be. we will utterly destroy them by targeting the bad guys and one of the problems with marco s thought foreign policy, he s far too often supported hillary clinton and barack obama, undermining governments in the middle east that have helped radical islamic terrorists. we need to focus on the bad guys and not meern civil wars. hillary clinton and barack obama s strategy is to lead from behind. what he s outlining is not to lead at all. we cannot continue to outsource foreign policy, we must lead. we are the most powerful nation in the world, we need to begin to act like it again. wow. rand paul joins us now, senator, thank you. when you get in these debates with rubio, it must be easy, just talk to a neocon. he wants to knock off like a iraq and libya, go back and do it more with syria and knock off more. the interesting thing is i thought we had a substantive debate of regime change. and this is something your father would have liked
milania, thank you for standing here, letting us have you here. you said that if we had not gone into these wars and a lot of people who watch this show agree with me. this war in iraq, i don t buy this theory for wmd. i think they wanted to fall for it. they cooked up the term, wmd, all of these things, knocking off libya and moammar gadhafi and mubarak, you said if we had not been in this war we could have how do we go forward and find that money again so we can rebuild the country? well, we re going to just have to do that. the war in iraq was a disaster. you and i have known each other a long time. went to the university of pennsylvania years ago and i have a lot of respect for you. the fact if you look at what we did in iraq, we just totally
i don t buy the theory with wmd. they cooked up the term. they didn t care what it was. knocking off libya, knocking off gadhafi and mubarak. you said we could have spent $3 trillion actually probably four. could be five. how do we go forward how about all the lives how do we find the money again to rebuild the country? we re going to have to do it. we have to stop the nonsense. we destabilized the middle east. the war in iraq was a disaster. you interviewed me at the university of pennsylvania many years ago. i have a lot of respect for you. the fact is that, if you look at what we did in iraq, we totally destabilized the middle east. i have been against it from 2003, 2004. you see articles all over the place. four guys tonight. carson, you, cruz and paul had a pretty good fight going with the old crowd led by cruz.
senator rand paul who you ve been talking quite a bit about and taking a different stand and senator, i m wondering, where do you think the voters are on this question of where the republican party should be in standing alone? thank you, thank you. you took a different stand from candidates like chris christie. well, i think to be successful, to be a strong country you can t do it from bankruptcy court. we can t keep spending ourselves into oblivion, war is expensive and we have decide, are we always going to responsible for deciding all the leaders in the middle east? and that has worked or helped us? when we toppled gaddafi, did it make the world safer? no, more chaotic and allowed us to have a failed state in libya. now there are a nest of terrorism. i think we did have a good debate. and it s an important debate. i think the first time you re really seeing a real demarcation and separation within the republican party over what is the appropriate invest for policy. i m hoping